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Mets Apparently Obsessed With Getting Pedro Back

Adam WarnerSaturday, May 19, 2007
By Adam Warner


That which drives me nuts; hearing/reading how the Mets better get another starting pitcher, else they will not ever win in October.

It started last summer BEFORE we knew Pedro was going down. Mets withstood that AND El Duque going down AND Trachsel bombing out and came within one inning of the World Series thanks to the remaining starters.

It continues to this day. I heard a pundit I generally like, Jon Heyman (formerly of Newsday, I believe from S.I. now) on Michael Kay's show the other day devoting 30 seconds of a 10 minute segment to the Mets to make the point they need another starter.

Then yesterday Dave Anderson has this nugget in the Times (behind their Fortress Wall online)

In the Mets' success and the Yankees' struggle approaching their annual intramural inspection beginning tomorrow night at Shea, they continue to hold tryout camps for another starting pitcher. Hardly the ideal situation for two teams expected to be competing in October.

WTF? The Mets are 3rd in the league in ERA. He's worried that they have had to use 7 starting pitchers so far this year. Eight now counting Jason Vargas.

Now let's get real here. Not one sentient being expects El Duque to make every single start. The only real issue is the 5th starter. And hard to say Jorge Sosa has disappointed, so there's not even an issue there right now. Yeah, it would be great to get a real ace in his prime later this year. But they're kind of tough to find and expensive to trade for. If the Twins flop out of the race and are willing to trade Johan Santana, sure, that would help. Ditto on the Blue Jays and Roy Halladay. But beyond that, how many guys out there are that much better than what the Mets have now? And are available.

The article spends most of the time on the Yankees, but moves back to the Mets and Pedro towards the end.

Even without Martínez, the Mets appear capable of battling the Braves, their longtime nemesis, for first place in the National League East, but even as the wild card, they would need Martínez at his best in the postseason. His absence last year kept them from getting past the Cardinals in the N.L. Championship Series and possibly winning the World Series.

How well the Mets and the Yankees do will depend on how well Roger Clemens and Pedro Martínez fill those empty lockers.

Is it a requirement to actually watch a game to cover a team? Again, the Mets were 1 inning away from the World Series. And it was THEIR BATS that were more problematic. It would awesome to get Pedro back and in form. But that's just gravy right now. Does anyone get the sense the Mets are sitting there crossing their fingers that it happens, and just *knowing* they have no shot without him? Give me a break.

About Adam: I am a professional options trader, and financial writer. I pen the Daily Options Report blog and contribute to numerous other sites.

I'm a 41 year old huge Mets (and football Giants) fan since the mid 70's. I trek out to Shea every Opening Day, and a few other times a year, from the Jersey burbs

I'm a "non-doctrinaire" stats junky. And by that I mean I follow it, but certainly don't swear by it.

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Comments (8)

Adam ,

What amazes me just as much as these incredibly uninformed opinions . Is that so many of our own so called fanatics parrot the same crap ! Right now I am hard pressed to come up with another top three starters from any other team that I would rather have than Glavine , Maine and Perez . And when you add in Sosa and "El" , we have a good enough rotation not only to win the NL East but to run away with it . Watch what we do when the Braves come back to earth and stop playing over their heads . And Delgado gets into the swing of things (no pun intended) , 10 games up by early August you heard it here first .

And this is not even taking into consideration that at some point this year we are going to have a certain Hall Of Fame starter rejoin our rotation (Pedro) and two well above average set up men (Mota and Dirty Duaner) to our already stacked pen without having to dish out any of our prospects . Can anyone name one team that can even come close to saying anything like that ?

I love it when a plan comes together !!!

"It would awesome to get Pedro back and in form".

But "that's just gravy right now" because it does look like they will have FIVE GOOD STARTERS. And it sure looks like they will be good for the rest of the season.

And if not, then they still have plenty of others working out at NO to back them up .

And from those five, there is a heck of a chance from that group they could up with more then one ace in that crowd to go into the PO‘s with.

AND THEN THERE IS PEDRO!!!

"It would awesome to get Pedro back and in form".

But "that's just gravy right now" because it does look like they will have FIVE GOOD STARTERS. And it sure looks like they will be good for the rest of the season.

And if not, then they still have plenty of others working out at NO to back them up .

And from those five, there is a heck of a chance from that group they could up with more then one ace in that crowd to go into the PO‘s with.

AND THEN THERE IS PEDRO!!!

The NY Times already has a hard enough time trying to get their facts correct when it comes to "hard news". You don't really expect them to actually spend valuable resources covering a topic so trivial and beneath them such as sports, do you?

You'd be hard pressed to find a staff as good and consistent, top to bottom, as the Mets have been so far this season. Almost every MLB team pitching statistic bears that statement out. Mentioning the Mets staff the same breath as Yankee pitching and attempting to fabricate a comparison that shows they have the same problem is not only reaching for straws, its laughable.

With my being a Mets fan, you can take this with a grain of salt, but based on what I've seen in the Bronx so far, I certainly don't expect the Yankees to be competing this October. They can't even compete in May!

"the Mets appear capable of battling the Braves"
Appear capable?! This guy is too much. Is he referring to the staff that contains two number 1's and three number 5's and are about to collapse under the weight of their "revamped" bullpen? Methinks he's better off behind that Fortress Wall, for OUR protection.

Yeah, it's like "Yankees having serious pitching issues.....means the Mets must be too. Let me run an analogy between the Mets waiting for Pedro and the Yankees waiting for Clemens".

I mean yeah, who wouldn't want another ace? Agreed. The Mets are as in good shape as anyone with their pitching, even without knowing what Pedro gives them.

AND they have Mota and Duaner as possible plusses.

If we can avoid any major injuries from here till the trade deadline . Omar will be in the catbird seat . Especially if Gomez and Martinez keep doing what they are and if Milledge comes back to AAA and shows he is healthy .

With Mota already having settled in by then and Pedro and Dirty right around the corner . Omar should be fielding some very interesting trade proposals . And if he finds a deal he likes he will no doubt be dealing from a dominant position of real strength !

I love the way this season is shaping up . Wrighty has officially joined the party now . The last guest we are waiting for to show is Cerrano !!!

If we can avoid any major injuries from here till the trade deadline . Omar will be in the catbird seat . Especially if Gomez and Martinez keep doing what they are and if Milledge comes back to AAA and shows he is healthy .

With Mota already having settled in by then and Pedro and Dirty right around the corner . Omar should be fielding some very interesting trade proposals . And if he finds a deal he likes he will no doubt be dealing from a dominant position of real strength !

I love the way this season is shaping up . Wrighty has officially joined the party now . The last guest we are waiting for to show is Cerrano !!!

Hi Adam- All I can say is that you "get-it"
As you pointed out they got within a strike of the World Series using 13 different pitchers last season, one of them being Jose Lima.
John Maine will even out and settle down, Perez has shown us he can hunker down and pitch well, Glavine is Glavine-good until the 6th or7th inning.
Right now Sosa, Vargas and whoever eles will pick up the slack until El Duque comes back. I am not counting on Pedro being back this season, if he is and he comes back fully healthy-FANTASTIC if not they will find other ways to get there.

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