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Mike SteffanosMonday, January 12, 2009
By Mike Steffanos


Sorry for not getting a post up for Sunday. The idea is still to try to post every day, but I expect I'll miss a few here and there. I don't think I have a full post in me on any one matter, but here are a few scattered thoughts on a cold winter's evening.

Miscalculation with Derek Lowe?
The news that the Braves might overpay to outbid the Mets for Derek Lowe seems to have gotten under the skin of some Mets fans. I'm on record as favoring the Mets signing Lowe, although I've always liked Ollie Perez, because I believe he takes a little of the pressure off Maine and Pelfrey.

Still, forgive me if find somewhat ludicrous the idea in some fans minds that Atlanta -- desperate for some good publicity in a terrible winter -- overpaying in years and/or money to sign Lowe reflects a mistake on Minaya's part in reading the market.

Sometimes all it takes is one team with an agenda that goes beyond just making the right deal that can push up a player's value beyond what makes sense. What I find somewhat humorous was the conceit in Atlanta for so many years that it was the Mets who had to overpay to lure talent. Remember how the columnists in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution used to snicker about things that went wrong for us? How the mighty have fallen.

I'll tell you what, though, losing out on Lowe really ratchets up the pressure to sign Perez. While it looks right now like the Mets don't have much competition in that regard, no one really saw the Braves making a strong play for Lowe, either.

Sorry, Brian
Okay, a couple of people talked me down a little on the Schneider thing from the other day. In fairness, to believe a guy is tipping pitches somehow would require more complete evidence than presented. Mea culpa.

On the other hand, I still wonder if the numbers -- which, as DD pointed out in the comments, reflected a significant amount of the team's innings -- don't have some significance. Perhaps Schneider falls into patterns with his pitch calling. Maybe the numbers reflect an overagressiveness at times from the catcher. It's still something that I think I'll pay some attention to next season.

Pedro
Looking at Tim Redding's numbers, a case could be made for still bringing Pedro Martinez back on the right deal.

In 127 career starts, Redding has pitched 665 innings, or an average of 5.2 per start. That certainly isn't any better than you'd get from Pedro at this stage of his career, and the $2.25 million they're paying him wouldn't be completely out of line for a long man in the bullpen.

You can make an argument that you sign Lowe or Ollie, then you bring in Pedro, Redding, Jon Niese and Bobby Parnell along with some other camp invitees and let them all slug it out for the job. I still think signing Pedro is a long shot, but not an impossibility.

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Comments (5)

CAPSLOCK=DISABILITY ACCOMODATION
TO SUGGEST THAT ATLANTA TRULY IS ANY THREAT WHATSOEVER IN THE LOWE NEGOTIATIONS, IS TANTAMOUNT TO BELIEVING ANY FABLE OR FAIRY TALE SCOTT BORAS WISHES TO WEAVE. THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO EVIODENCE THAT THE BRAVES OPERATING BUDGET HELD BY LIBERTY COMMUNICATIONS HAS BEEN INCREASED(RUMORED INTEREST OR OFFERS NOTWITHSTANDING NO ACTUAL OFFERS EXTENDED). SINCE I TRULT DOUBT THERE ARE ANY BRAVES POSTERS ADORNING THE BOARDROOM @ LIBERTY AND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE BRAVES FANBASE IS SIGNIFICANTLY SPREAD ACROSS A VAST SOUTHERN GEOGRAPHY PRECLUDING A FANNIES IN THE SEATS FANBASE. BRAVES' FANS ARE FANNIES ON THE COUCH BASE DUE TO THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THE BRAVES ARE THE ONLY MLB TEAM BETWEEN VALDOSTA GEORGIA & RICHMOND, VA. SIGNIFICANT MILEAGE TO PRECLUDE SEAT PURCHASES. THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE IS THAT THE BRAVES FRANCHISE HAS NOT BEEN A BIG-TICKET FREE AGENT PLAYER SINCE TED SOLD THEM INTO CORPORATE BONDAGE TO TIME-WARNER. ALL RETAINED FREE AGENT STARS HAD TO AGREE TO LESS THAN MKT TERMS TO DO SO. BELIEVING THAT A FRANCHISE WHO JUST ALLOWED THEIR ONE FRANCHISE PITCHER REMAINING WALK FOR LACK OF GUARANTEEING $3M (BOSTON OFFERS 5M GUARANTEE+5M INCENTIVES Vs ATLANTA OFFER 2M GUARANTEE+8M INCENTIVES)SUDDENLY REPORTS OF 4Y/40M+ ARE TO BE BELIEVED? THE CURRENT BRAVES ARE A FOURTH PLACE CLUB WHO'S LOWELESS CURRENT ROTATION HAS A COMBINED RECORD OF 50-57 FROM '08 (INCL KAWAKAMI's 9-5 IN JPN AS MLB #s. A ROTATI0N OF VAZQUEZ, KAWAKAMI, JURJENS, CAMOILLO, REYES, MORTON, PARR DOES NOT SEEM TO BE A FRATERNITY LOWE WOULD WANT TO PLEDGE TO IN HIS FINAL CONTRACT.

I hope I didn't miss any insightful points in your post above, Mets62fan, 'cause I quit reading after the first sentence. It really does feel like shouting when someone types in all caps.

Oh, wait: is that first burst something to do with why you type in caps? If so, my bad, I guess, though you might have said so in English.

hey 62, i fully understand that you may have a disability that may cause you to type in caps. you explained that at the beginning of your post. people who do not have a disability sometimes find it hard to comprehend. i'm sure mike has no issue with it so keep on posting. now, we really need to be looking at sheets. heck with the injuries, we need to take the risk. i was never a big fan of perez so giving him 10+ for 4 years is just too much. sign pedro and wolf and let all of them battle it out for the last spots. not much options left.

I still say if no Lowe and they try to jack-up the price on Perez, the Mets would do fine by getting a combination of Wolf(lefty), Garland(innings), Garcia (mid-season), or Sheets(maybe a injury in the waiting). There must be something to an injury or two to Sheets, because when healthy this guy is a good pitcher, and you would think teams would be soliciting his services left & right. Might not be the Lowe/Perez look you want, but they are serviceable and you never know when a player has that one season where it all comes together. Sure it's looking for lightening in a bottle, but you have take a chance when somethings are not going your way. If the Braves are really willing to pony up that contract, and the Mets do not up the ante to Lowe, then aloha means goodbye! If Perez then becomes next best thing and Boras can get him 5 yrs and 60+, go and ride that train Ollie (Mets righties will beat up on you)! There are still some quality arms available, and I am sure there are still some guys that can be had in a trade. Again, I go back to last year with Santana, did not see him coming to the Mets, but in 2009 and beyond, his home park is Citi(I hate the name)Field (and who designed that lousey patch for the inaugural season?). So lets wait and see what Omar has up his sleeve before we fold the tent and let Satan....ooops I mean Scott Boras have his way. Lets Go Mets!

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